Thermia Super Vision

[Per-Erik]

ha ha ha ha..

nää men nån kanske gör det

hittade detta dokument också..!

http://ds2.elc.beijer.se/web/webbfiles. ... Master.pdf

"Connecting a PC or other computer system
A personal computer is connected directly to the RS422 port on the operator terminal via
the cable CAB6*/GKCABP4*/TK-PP20V030* or directly to the RS232C port on the
terminal via the cable CAB5/GKCABP2/TK-PP10V025. The controller is connected to the
operator terminal according to the manual for the current controller. The
parameters are set under Setup/Peripherals in the programming tool for the operator
terminal. Settings for the personal computer is connected are made according to the
settings made for the COMLI controller in the programming tool.
*Depending on how the PC software handles the hardware handshaking signals."

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[Per-Erik]

I dont think that some one realy know what kind of interface card manufatory.

But it shuld use COMLI protocol, so it you have a COMLI Cabel, then it might work..

Found this about the cabel.. there is 2 sorts of cabel that it could be..
http://exorus.exorint.net/gdoc/docattiv ... A093-0.pdf

Do we have the "supervision software" ?? for direct kabel?

[Per-Erik]

found this..

http://husdata.nu/besk.asp
look at Webshop & then Art. Nr. H11
Access Paket för Thermia Värmepumpar. (Klar för leverans under Vintern 2005)

Under utveckling...

Translation:

Access Packet for thermai Heating pump? (redy for delevery at vinter 2005)

Work in progress

It seems that it is going to be made for thermia Diplomat and so on..

Could the same inteface fit the Bequem?

Some one is going to try to compet whit thermia.

For the IVT interface they take 500:- SEK about 45 Euro:-

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any news?

[Per-Erik]

the pdf file with the shematic looks good - the bequem connector has also 4 pins! but the pinout ...

one is + and one is - = thats the easy part..

who gives it a try

he he.. inte he middel of the winter

and if i look at the pics at http://kopparv34.mine.nu/pellpic/
i see a thermia burner and it seems to be connected to the owners pc ?!

I think he has
http://www.varmepumpsforum.com/vplogger.html
you can whit that packet logg everyting you want, that has a tempature.
the software is free u can find it on the internet.. only a hardware cost..

http://www.servern.nu/knuts/temp.html <--- for the a swe manual how you can make your HW.. if u can..

[jth]

and if i look at the pics at http://kopparv34.mine.nu/pellpic/
i see a thermia burner and it seems to be connected to the owners pc ?!

I think he has
http://www.varmepumpsforum.com/vplogger.html
you can whit that packet logg everyting you want, that has a tempature.
the software is free u can find it on the internet.. only a hardware cost..

http://www.servern.nu/knuts/temp.html <--- for the a swe manual how you can make your HW.. if u can..

Yes, the burner is not connected to the PC.
I'm using Dallas 1wire interface to read DS1820 temprature sensors and DS2405 to control the vacuumcleaner and screwmotor. With 1-wire file system it is easy to read and control.

Kod: Markera allt

05.764327000000  10.1A8F9F000800  10.5E139F000800  10.7A4F9F000800  alarm
05.C03427000000  10.2C569F000800  10.78359F000800  10.A77E9F000800  bus.0
 $ cat 10.*/temperature
     42.1875     38.9375       55.25     -0.4375      15.125     17.8125

New connected devices just show up with their idnumbers.

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Hi jth,

could you please explain your matning-system to me?

i see that the screw takes out the pellets of the storageroom and the cleaner brings them up a 3m level to a second, smaller storageroom.

is that correct?

is the cleaner strong enough for this?

is there no problem with dust? in the room where the cleaner is?

[jth]

Your description is about right.
The smaler storage room is burner and laundryroom about 16 meters away from the big storage. The cleaner is more then adequate, it is only a 32mm pipe. I had to change the cleanerbag today for the first time. This since the filter in the suctionbox is only a bedsheet and smaler particles can get past. It lost too mutch suction. I bet the most of the dust in the bag is from when there was no net to separate sawdust before the suction. There is no problem with the cleaner effectivnes. I'm thinking about how to slow it down to use less power. No dust in the room, that is what it was made for. The few times I use my cleaner it always look mutch better afterwards.

[Gäst]

Aha, very interesting!

Tell me: How does the "sugburken", where the cleaner is connected work?
is it air tight? and if yes, how do the pellets come out then on the bottom?
is there a flap? does the engine of the cleaner stop when the flap opens?

[jth]

Sugburken is about airtight and you can see the blank flap at the bottom that let the pellets out when the cleaner stops. There is a few old taped fuses as counterweight so the flap closes up again then the pellets have fallen out.
The computer turns on the cleaner, wait 4 sec, then the motor, wait 30minutes, turns off motor, wait 9 sec, and turn cleaner off and the pellets fall down, wait 18minutes to cool down and starts again until small storage is full.

Nu har jag COMLI filter källkod och systembeskrivning. Nu väntar jag på posten och mer ledighet.

[Andy]

Nu har jag COMLI filter källkod och systembeskrivning. Nu väntar jag på posten och mer ledighet.

Något man skulle kunna få ta del av kanske?

Vilken hårdvara har du beställt ?

/A

[jth]

Jag skulle vilja se om det fungerar först men jag är inte helt omöjlig. Du får höra av dig på ICQ eller mail.
Hårdvaran skrev jag om i mitt första inlägg. En NM422A 184kr (bara 25st kvar) på ELFA samt en kontakt 16Kr.

[Stugsittaren]

... The cleaner is more then adequate, it is only a 32mm pipe. I had to change the cleanerbag today for the first time. This since the filter in the suctionbox is only a bedsheet and smaler particles can get past.

Do you use 6mm (max 24mm long) pellets? If you used 8mm (max 32mm long) I suppose the danger of clogging the 32mm pipe would be high, or am I wrong? How many kg of pellets is it possible to transport before changing the cleanerbag? I´m also wondering how the bedsheet filter is mounted in the suction box?

Other people that build waccum transport systems use special tube to take away the static electricity that can occur when transporting something fast in a plastic tube. Have you thought about that or is that why you have mounted the tube in connection with the ventilation drum?

[jth]

Det blev lite Engelska, libi förstår nog mina förklaringar endå.
Jag använder 8mm bulkpellets från Såbi. Jag har nästan kört ett halvår på den dammsugaren samt använt den som vanlig dammsugare också. Den har lite större påse ca 20x10x30 som är vikt, vissa mindre brukar vara 20x15x15cm. Kör på en mindre dammsugare nu då jag inte hade några påsar på lager
Det har bara blivigt stopp vid inloppet på röret vid böjen efter tratten. Märker nu att det är ett tecken på att det är dåligt sug. Nu har den gått ca 9x30minuter utan problem efter jag bytte dammsugare. Den mindre är en sådandär billig 300kr plast grej. Just nu eldar jag ca 75Kg pellets per dag, totalt 15,8ton och 4909timmar sedan starten förra julen (enligt brännaren).
Lakanet ligger dubbelt mellan två kylskåpsgaller med skummgummi på sidorna för tätning. Det ligger horizontellt på två lister mellan inröret och dammsugarslangen. Jag får ta några bilder på insidan om jag behöver byta matrialet som bromsar pelletsen igen. Jag sköt ett fint runnt hål i en matta så det smattra på bra i burken.
Röret har en liten jordad ståltråd ca 50cm från sugburken men det är allt förutom att det ligger nära några andra rör på vägen men det är bara en tillfällighet. Jag tror inte det gör så stor skillnad. Pelletsen är rätt ren efter att den trillat över gallret och det var inga problem utan galler heller. Jag hade också funderingar hur det skulle fungera med PEMröret, eftersom jag läste om samma statiska elektrisitet. Men det verkar inte vara något större problem vad jag kan se.

Dataanslutningen verkar vara - d1 d2 +5V på stiften från brännaren.